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Minority Matters May 2014

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Discussion of recent primary elections and upcoming general elections for Arkansas. Panelist: Lamar Davis - Deputy Chief of Staff, Arkansas Governor's Office; Malcolm Glover - Political Analyst; Leon Jones - Attorney.

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WELCOME TO "MINORITY MATTERS". I AM YOUR HOST SYLVESTER SMITH. THIS MONTH WE'RE GOING TO DISCUSS THE RECENT PRIMARY ELECTIONS AND HERE ARE A PANEL OF EXPERTS THAT SHARE THE THOUGHTS ABOUT THE ELECTION SEASON. JOINING ME IS LEON A REPUBLICAN AND ATTORNEY IN FAYETTEVILLE. LAMAR DAVIS A DEMOCRAT AND DEPUTY CHIEF OF STAFF FOR GOVERNOR BEEBE AND MALCOLM GLOVER A POLITICAL ANALYST. THANK YOU FOR JOINING US AND IT'S A TIME WHEN ARKANSAS HAD A CHOICE IN THE ELECTION AND SEEK OUT CANDIDATES AND LET'S TALK ABOUT THE RECENT PRIMARY AND MALCOLM WOULD YOU LIKE TO START.

SPEAKING TO WHAT YOU SAID EARLIER THE ONLY CONTESTED SIDE ON THE DEMOCRAT SIDE WAS FOR GOVERNOR AND MIKE ROSS AND FORMER CONGRESSMAN THAT SERVED SOUTH ARKANSAS AND TEACHER LYNETTE BRYANT AND MIKE ROSS WON 84% OF THE VOTE I BELIEVE, BUT I THINK FOR SOMEONE LIKE LYNETTE BRYANT AND TEACHER AFRICAN-AMERICAN FEMALE WHO DIDN'T HAVE MUCH OF A CAMPAIGN LIKE MIKE ROSS AND CAN TAKE SOLACE SHE HAD 24,000 VOTES AND SHE RAN BECAUSE WE NEED COMPETITION ON THE DEMOCRATIC SIDE LIKE THE REPUBLICAN SIDE SO IT WAS INTERESTING TO SEE HER MAKE THAT ANNOUNCEMENT, BUT OF COURSE MIKE ROSS WAS ABLE TO WIN THE VICTORY EASILY.

WHAT ABOUT ANY OF THE REPUBLICAN RACES? WERE THERE ANY SURPRISES IN REGARD TO THE OUTCOMES AS FAR AS THIS PANEL IS CONCERNED?

WELL, THERE WERE A COUPLE OF THINGS -- I DON'T KNOW IF I WOULD SAY THERE WERE SURPRISED BUT I THOUGHT FOR EXAMPLE THE RACE FOR TREASURER AND I THOUGHT THAT WOULD BE CLOSER. IT WAS PRETTY CLOSE BUT I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE CLOSER AND DR. BERRY WOULD HAVE PULLED THAT OUT AND WHAT I CALL THE WAL-MART CULTURE AND NOT TAKING MONEY FROM LOBBYISTS AND I THOUGHT THAT WAS SURPRISING BUT FOR THE MOST PART I DIDN'T KNOW THE OTHERS WERE. I THOUGHT KEN HEY WAS GOING TO MAKE A BETTER SPLASH AND ONE OF THE ADS POSTED IN THE CAMPAIGN WAS GOING TO HURT HIM BUT I DIDN'T THINK THERE WERE MANY SURPRISES.

I AGREE AND THANK YOU FOR HAVING US AND FOR THIS FORMAT. I THINK IT'S INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE DIVERSITY IN THE MEDIA, PARTICULARLY THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA. I WAS LOOKING AT THE COVERAGE AND I DIDN'T SEE AFRICAN-AMERICANS OR LATINOS DOING COMMENTARY AND I SAW SOME WOMEN AND THANK YOU FOR HAVING THIS FORMAT AND IT'S IMPORTANT. MOST OF THE SURPRISES WERE ON THE REPUBLICAN SIDE. I WAS SURPRISED HOW STRONGLY COLEMAN RUN AND ASA HAD TO SPEND TO GET ONLY 70% OF THE VOTES. I THINK IT SPEAKS TO WHAT I CALL THE CIVIL WAR WITHIN THE REPUBLICAN PARTY. IT'S STILL SEARCHING FOR THAT AND IT'S GOING TO BE FALL WHICH MASK DO THEY HAVE TO WEAR TO APPEAL TO THE VOTERS. YOU HAVE TO PICK ONE SO ARE THEY GOING TO LEAN TOWARDS THE TEA PARTY OR GO TO THE MAINSTREAM AND APPEAL TO THE BROADER AND I THINK THAT WAS THE STORY OF THE NIGHT.

ONE OF THE INTERESTING DYNAMICS THAT CAME TO PASS IS THE SHIFT FROM NORTHWEST ARKANSAS DOMINANCE IN THE PRIMARIES AND I USED TO JOKE TO BE THE REPUBLICAN NOMINEE YOU NEED TO BE FROM NORTH WEST ARKANSAS BUT IT SEEMS AND YOU BROUGHT IT UP WITH THE BERRY MILLIGAN RACE AND SURE HE WAS A CHAIR OF THE PARTY BUT FROM SALINE COUNTY AND YOU HAVE THE GUY FROM NORTHWEST ARKANSAS AND A WELL RESPECTED AND WELL KNOWN LEGISLATOR THERE AND DIDN'T SEEM THAT RACE TURNED OUT WHAT PEOPLE THOUGHT. DENNIS IS SAVVY AND HAS JIM HARRIS FROM THE HUCKABEE ADMINISTRATION BUT I THOUGHT THAT POWER WOULD SWAY DUNCAN SO THE NEXT QUESTION FOR THE PANEL AND ESPECIALLY FOR YOU LEON DOES GEOGRAPHY MATTER IN THE PRIMARIES? IS THIS AN OUTLIER, THIS RACE OR A TALE OF THINGS TO COME?

FIRST OF ALL LET ME ECHO WHAT LAMAR SAID I DEFINITELY THINK THIS IS A FORUM THAT IS NEEDED AND WE NEED TO DO MORE ABOUT THIS AND HAVE OTHER CONVERSATIONS AROUND THIS, BUT TO YOUR POINT I THINK -- I DON'T THINK IT'S AN OUTLIER. I THINK NORTHWEST ARKANSAS IS STILL IN PLAY AS IT RELATES TO THE REPUBLICAN BASE. I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO HAVE THAT, AND WE WILL DEFINITELY SEE THAT GOES TO THE GENERAL ELECTION WITH THE RACE FOR DISTRICT NINETY THREE SO WILL DEFINITELY SEE THAT AND TELL A TALE IF YOU WILL, BUT I DON'T KNOW -- I CAN'T REALLY TELL YOU WHY DUNCAN BARRETT DIDN'T WIN THE RACE. HE DID WELL -- LET ME SAY THAT AND HE DID WELL AND A GREAT SHOWING IN THE RACE BUT I BELIEVE ALTHOUGH NORTHWEST ARKANSAS ISN'T AN OUTLIER CENTRAL ARKANSAS SPECIALLY THE SECOND AND FOURTH DISTRICTS ARE STARTING TO TURN A TIDE TOWARD THE REPUBLICAN PEARLT SO YOU SEE SEE MILLIGAN CAPITALIZED ON THE LOCATION IN HIS COUNTY AND MOVE THAT FORWARD.

THAT MAKES SENSE, AND I WILL ALSO EXCITED TO SEE REPUBLICANS FROM NORTHWEST ARKANSAS WHO HISTORICALLY CONTROLLED THE PARTY BEING OPEN MINDED TO THE IDEAS OF THE CANDIDATES RATHER THAN JUST MAKING THEIR DETERMINATION BASED ON WHERE THEY'RE FROM. I THINK IT'S A GOOD EXAMPLE OF THE EVOLUTION OF THE PARTY. BEFORE WE WRAP UP THE PRIMARY DISCUSSION IT'S IMPORTANT TO TALK ABOUT THE ATTORNEY GENERAL RUNOFF. WHAT ARE THE PREDICTIONS ABOUT THAT RACE BETWEEN STERLING AND RUTLIJ?

I THINK TURNOUT IS KEY. LESLIE RUT LIJ HAD A CAMPAIGN AND GET ENDORSEMENTS FROM MIKE HUCKABEE AND OTHER WELL KNOWN CONSERVATIVES SO I THINK SHE WILL TRY TO USE THAT TO HER ADVANTAGE BUT IT WAS BE INTERESTING WHETHER OR NOT THEY TURN OUT WHEN PEOPLE ARE ON VACATION AND DEPENDING ON GETTING THE SOLDIERS TO THE POLLS.

I THINK THAT IS RIGHT AND THE ISSUE IN WHAT ISSUE RACE BECAUSE I THINK SHE WOULD HAVE WON IF IT WAS DAVID STERLING AND HER BUT THERE WAS A THIRD PERSON -- I'M NOT GOING TO SAY SHE SIPHONED THE VOTES AND SHE GOT THEM BUT IN THE SUMMER IT'S GOING TO BE TOUGH, JUNE TENTH. I GUESS THE BEST PART OF THE ELECTION SCHOOL IS JUST LETTING OUT BECAUSE OF THE SNOW DAYS SO PEOPLE HAVEN'T GONE IN MASS OUT OF THE STATE BUT I THINK SHE CAN PULL IT OUT. I THINK DAVID STERLING PASSIONED HIMSELF TO MORE FRINGE AND THE POSITION ON STAND YOUR GROUND AND I DON'T THINK THE ATTORNEY GENERAL SHOULD TAKE UP, AND I THINK YOU WILL SEE MORE SAVVY VOTERS IN THE RUNOFF VERSUS JUST A GENERAL ELECTORATE.

I AM GOING TO TAKE -- I DON'T HAVE A HORSE IN THAT RUNOFF RACE OBVIOUSLY BUT AS A FORMER EMPLOYEE WITH MARK PRYOR AND MIKE BEEBE I THINK THE OFFICE IS IMPORTANT. YOU MENTIONED STAND YOUR GROUND. THE POSITION OF DAVID STERLING AND A FORMER CLASSMATE OF MINE IS SCARY FOR US AND THE NATION AND VOTERS WILL SEE WHAT THIS IS AND NOT SUPPORT SOMEONE WHO WOULD TAKE A IRRESPONSIBLE POSITION AND IF YOU LOOK AT THOSE SHOT BECAUSE OF STAND YOUR GROUND LAWS THEY LOOK AT US AT THE TAKE AND WHEN YOU HAVE HAD DAVID TAKES THAT POSITION IT'S WRONG FOR ARKANSAS AND THE NATION AND I HOPE THEY DO THAT IN MASSS.

WELL THAT SOUNDS LIKE A CHALLENGE TO THE FELLOW DEMOCRATS OUT THERE.

IT IS.

THAT'S A FIRST FOR THE SHOW BUT I AM EXCITED TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS WITH THAT. LET'S TALK ABOUT THE FALL. WHAT ARE THE PREDICTIONS OF WHAT WILL HAPPEN IN THE FALL? I KNOW THE DEMOCRAT PARTY LAMAR YOUR PEOPLE ARE SEEKING TO GET BACK CONTROL OF THE STATE HOUSE OR THE SENATE AND HOPING TO MAINTAIN CONTROL IN THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE. WHAT ARE THE PREDICTIONS TO WHAT WILL HAPPEN AND LET'S START AT THE TOP WITH THE U.S. SENATE RACE. DO YOU THINK MARK PRYOR CAN FIGHT OFF THE TOM COTTON?

YES, I DO. I THINK THE POLL IS THERE AND THE LEAD IS 10.S AND WITH MARK PRYOR YOU HAVE NAME RECOGNITION, A KNOWN COMMODITY AND A PERSON WE KNOW THAT SUPPORT THE CIVIL RIGHTS LEGISLATION AND AFRICAN-AMERICANS ON DIFFERENT LEVEL, HAS INVITED PRESIDENT OBAMA TO ARKANSAS AND IS KEY AND TALKS ABOUT WHO MARK PRYOR IS. IN THE MIDST OF THE NATIONAL TRAGEDY HE'S THE ONE THAT SAID I WANT OUR PRESIDENT ON COME HERE AND NOT A DEMOCRATIC HOTBED AND THAT'S WHO HE IS AND VOTERS WANT SOMEONE TO WORK ACROSS THE LINES AND TOM COTTON IS A FRINGE CANDIDATE SO I THINK HE WILL BE SUCCESSFUL WITH THAT. WITH THE GOVERNOR'S RACE IT'S FORCED MIKE ROSS TO FOCUS AND WORK IN THOSE COMMUNITIES AND GET THINGS DONE EARLIER BECAUSE HE HAD TO FIGHT IN THE PRIMARY SO I THINK IT WILL SERVE HIM WELL. AGAIN YOU HAVE SOMEONE MORE MAINSTREAM THAN HUTCHINSON SEEMS TO BE AND I THINK AT THE TOP OF THE TICKET WE'RE DOING WELL AND THE BOTTOM OF THE TICKET --

BEFORE THE BOTTOM OF THE TICKET I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR ABOUT THE RACES AT THE TOP.

I THINK ONE THING ARKANSANS ARE GOING TOWARD A MORE DELIBERATE PERSON IN THE ROLE OF U.S. SENATOR SO I THINK IT'S PROBABLY SAFE TO SAY THAT MARK PRYOR ISN'T NECESSARILY A CHEERLEADER OR GIVE THE MOST EXCITING SPEECHES BUT I THINK ARKANSANS ON BOTH SIDES OF THE POLITICAL SPECTRUM ARE SAYING HE'S SERIOUS THOUGH AND IN MORE WAYS A INDEPENDENT THAN A DEMOCRAT AND TO HIS BENEFIT AND MAYBE NOT A YEAR AGO BUT SEEMS TO BE WORKING. FOR THE RACE FOR GOVERNOR IT'S GOING TO BE INTERESTING TO SEE. IT'S GOING TO BE A TURNOUT GAME AND BOTH CANDIDATES HAVE CONSERVATIVE VOTING RECORDS SO IT WILL BE INTERESTING TO SEE WHETHER MIKE ROSS CAN APPEAL TO CENTRAL ARKANSAS DEMOCRATS TO TURN OUT TO THE POLLS AND VOTE FOR HIM WHEN IN THE PAST THEY SAW HIM MORE SO AS A CONSERVATIVE DEMOCRAT, AND NOT SOMEONE WHO WOULD NECESSARILY STAND UP FOR SOME OF THE ISSUES THEY CARE ABOUT AND THERE ARE REPUBLICANS THAT HAVE ISSUES WITH ASA. HE RAN IN 2006 SO HE WILL HAVE TO CONFRONT THE IDEA OF HIM AGAIN SO IT WILL BE INTERESTING TO SEE AND DEBATES WILL TELL THE TALE THERE WHETHER OR NOT EITHER ONE OF WIN. I THINK THAT WOULD BE A SQUEAKER.

WE'RE GOING TO GET TO YOU LEON BUT DO YOU THINK MALCOLM THAT DEBATES ACTUALLY IMPACT ELECTIONS? BECAUSE AS SOMEONE THAT WORKED IN POLITICAL CAMPAIGNS AND A STUDENT OF THE PROCESS I BELIEVE THAT THE PEOPLE THAT TUNE INTO THE CAMPAIGNS -- THERE ARE TWO CATEGORIES OF THEM. I WOULD SAY THE SUPPORTERS TUNE IN LIKE WE DO TO BASKETBALL GAMES AND SECOND THERE IS THAT EDUCATED PERSON THAT REALLY WANTS TO UNDERSTAND, BUT I THINK THE GENERAL POPULOUS, THE AVERAGE EVERYDAY ARKANSANS I WOULD SAY THEY'RE IMPACTED BY THE MEDIA, THE TELEVISION AND RADIO COMMERCIALS. WHAT ARE THE THOUGHTS OF EVERYONE HERE?

I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT SYLVESTER AND WHERE THE DEBATES HAPPEN IS THE MARGINSES, THE PERSON THAT DIDN'T MAKE UP THEIR MIND AND UNCERTAIN ABOUT TOM COTTON BECAUSE HE DIDN'T SERVE LONG ENOUGH AND THE FIRE IS NOT LIT BY HUTCHINSON AND THEY'RE GOING TO EXERCISE THEIR RIGHT TO VOTE AND THAT PERSON CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN THE ELECTIONS THAT ARE GOING TO BE IF REALLY CLOSE.

OKAY. AND MY THOUGHT ABOUT THE SENATE RACE IT WOULD BE A 51-49 TYPE RACE AND THE PRYOR FATIGUE WITH THE VOTES ON OBAMACARE WOULD PULL HIM DOWN AND THE REPUBLICAN WAVE WOULD BOOST COTTON UP SO WE WILL HAVE TO SEE. WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS LEON?

WELL, TO START AT THE U.S. SENATE RACE I THINK PRIOR TO THE PRIMARY I WAS THINKING IT'S GOING TO BE 51-49 AND I STILL THINK THAT, AND I WILL BE QUITE HONEST MARK PRYOR IS A HOUSEHOLD NAME. HE'S BEEN AROUND, HIS DAD AND FAMILY HAS BEEN AROUND, SO TOM COTTON IS FACING AN UPHILL BATTLE BUT CONSIDERING, AND I KNOW WE'RE TALKING LOCALLY AND ARKANSAS BUT CONSIDERING THE NATIONAL NEWS NOW WITH THE VETERANS DEBACLE IF YOU WILL AND THE SCANDAL COMING OUT -- ESPECIALLY OUT OF PHOENIX AND VETERAN HOMES IN THE U.S. MARK PRYOR MIGHT HAVE QUESTIONS TO ANSWER AND YOU HAVE TOM COTTON WHO IS A VETERAN WHO SERVED IN THE MILITARY VALIANTLY AND THE COMMERCIAL A MONTH AGO WITH THE DRILL SERGEANT WAS A GOOD COMMERCIAL, AND SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WILL TIP THE SCALE BUT I THINK IT WILL BRING THE CONVERSATION MORE INTO FOCUS FOR TOM COTTON. AS RELATES TO THE GOVERNOR'S RACE I THINK THAT RACE IS GOING TO BE TIGHT. I SAID IT ALL ALONG AND IT'S GOING TO BE A TIGHT RACE. TO MALCOLM'S POINT THERE ARE PEOPLE ON BOTH SIDES OF THE AISLE THAT ARE GOING TO BE FOR ASA HUTCHINSON, FOR MIKE ROSS SO I HAVE THOSE SO BOTH CANDIDATES ARE LOOKING FOR THE PURPLE VOTERS, THE INDEPENDENTS THAT ARE LOOKING OUT THERE, AND TO THE QUESTION ON DEBATES IF WE'RE LOOKING AT THEM THE SAVVY POLITICAL INDIVIDUALS ARE GOING TO WATCH THE DEBATES AND MAKE DECISIONS BASED ON THAT, SO I THINK IT WILL HELP SOMEWHAT FOR THE PURPLE VOTER BUT NOT FOR THE STANCH REPUBLICAN OR DEMOCRAT.

WELL, I HAVE ALWAYS BEEN VERY FOND OF THE DEBATES MYSELF, AND I AM PROUD THAT AETN PLAYS A ROLE AND I WANT TO SAY THE CREDIT FOR THIS FORMAT GOES TO THE LEADERSHIP HERE AT AETN AND THE PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT ARE KIND ENOUGH TO CONTRIBUTE -- NOT TO ME, BUT I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT IT'S A NEEDED FORUM AND I AM GLAD WE'RE HERE TODAY BUT WANT TO MAKE SURE CREDIT GOES WHERE IT'S DUE. I THINK FOR THE FIRST TIME IN MANY YEARS WITH THE TOP TWO RACES, ESPECIALLY THOSE TELEVISED HERE, COULD HAVE AN IMPACT AND I FEEL THE SAME WAY ABOUT THE HUTCHINSON AND ROSS RACE LIKE THE SENATE RACE AND CONTRARY TO THE POLLS IT'S GOING TO BE TIGHT AND TWO WELL KNOWN BRANDS THAT ARKANSANS ARE FAMILIAR WITH, SOME IN A GOOD WAY, SOME IN A BAD WAY, AND PEOPLE ARE GOING TO HAVE AT SOME POINT PUT THE BIASES TO THE SIDE AND OPEN TO THE IDEAS THEY BRING FORTH FOR ARKANSAS AND WHOSE IDEAS RUE THE DAY AND THE FORMAT IS PART OF THAT AND I DO BELIEVE IT'S POWERFUL IN POLITICS, BUT IT IS ALSO DISINGENUOUS BECAUSE I BELIEVE THAT THE RIGHT MEDIA CAMPAIGN CAN MAKE THE DE DEVIL AS HONEST AND TAKE MOTHER THERESA ANDADS BY GROUPS MAKING HER SOUND LIKE A HORRIBLE PERSON SO I THINK THE DEBATES ARE GOING TO BE A GOOD IN THIS ENVIRONMENT. LET'S TALK ABOUT THE DOWN BALLOT RACES. YOU'VE GOT SOME PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO BE REALLY FIGHTING TO BE LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR AND AUDITOR AND TREASURER. WHAT ARE THE THOUGHTS ABOUT THOSE RACES?

WELL, I THINK THAT THE PROBABLY MOST HOTLY CONTESTED IS THE LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR RACE I THINK. YOU HAVE FORMIDABLE OPPONENT WITH TIM GRIFFIN ON ONE SIDE AND BILL -- JOHN [INAUDIBLE] ON THE OTHER SIDE SO GOT A LOT OF MONEY ON BOTH SIDE S. I THINK TIM GRIFFIN HAS A WAR CHEST AND SO FORTH SO I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE HUGE AND GOING BACK TO THE EARLIER POINT WHETHER NORTHWEST ARKANSAS IS AN OUTLIER OR NOT AND I SEEN JOHN BURKHALTER THERE AS MUCH AS TIM GRIFFIN AND IT'S GOING TO BE IN PLAY AND BOTH CANDIDATES ARE SEEKING THOSE VOTES AND THE MONEY IN NORTHWEST ARKANSAS AND AROUND THE REST OF THE STATE SO I THINK THAT IS PROBABLY GOING TO BE SECOND TO THE GOVERNOR'S, WELL THIRD TO THE GOVERNOR'S AND THE SENATE RACE THAT IS THE MOST WATCHED AND CONTESTED.

AND THERE IS NO DOUBT WHETHER IT'S THE STATE TREASURER RACE OR OTHER RACES WE HAVE TO REMEMBER OUTSIDE ISSUES WILL IMPACT THOSE RACES. I MEAN THE CLOUD THAT HUNG OVER OUR LAST STATE TREASURER IS GOING TO BE VERY INSTRUMENTAL IN THE KINDS OF QUESTIONS THAT ARE ASKED IN DEBATES, THE KIND OF MEDIA SCRUTINY THE CANDIDATES WILL GET. WHEN WE TALKED A MOMENT AGO ABOUT THE SENATE RACE AND THE GOVERNOR'S RACE AND POSSIBLY THE ATTORNEY GENERAL RACE SOME OF THE ISSUES, -- SOCIAL ISSUES COMING UP NOW IN TERMS OF THE GAY MARRIAGE DEBATE AND THE LIST GOES ON AND QUESTIONS THAT WILL ASKED OF THE CANDIDATES AND WHETHER OR NOT THEY COME ACROSS AS AUTHENTIC IN TERMS OF THE RESPONSE COULD BE THE FACTOR WHETHER THEY WIN OR LOSE.

I THINK TO GO BACK TO THE PREVIOUS QUESTION ABOUT DEBATES I THINK THEY MATTER. THEY'RE THEATER AND STAGE AND THE REASON IT MATTERS NOW IS BECAUSE OF SOCIAL MEDIA. YOU MAKE ONE MISTAKE AND IT LIVES ON IN PERPETUITY. AND I DON'T KNOW THAT ARKANSANS GOES TO THE POLLS FOR DOWN BALLOT RACES AND WORRY ABOUT THE TOP OF THE TICKET BUT BECAUSE OF WHAT YOU SAID MALCOLM WE WILL HAVE TICKET SPLITTERS AND PEOPLE WHO MAY VOTE FOR COTTON AND TURN AROUND AND VOTE FOR MIKE ROSS AND DENNIS MULLIGAN SO I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE A VERY INTERESTING ELECTION.

MALCOLM BRINGS UP A GOOD POINT ABOUT THE SCANDAL AND YOU TALK SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THE SCANDALS ON THE DEMOCRAT SIDE, BUT THE REPUBLICANS HAVE THEIR OWN SCANDAL TOO WITH THE FIASCO IN THE LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR'S OFFICE WITH GOVERNOR DARR SO WHAT ARE THE THOUGHTS WILL SCANDAL IMPACT THE RACES OR WILL THEY EVEN EACH OTHER OUT AND CREATE A WASH?

I THINK IT ERODES PUBLIC CONFIDENCE AND WE SAW THIS IN THE PRIMARY LITTLE TURNOUT AND VOTER APATHY AND LOOK AT THE WEBSITE AND THE COUNTIES THAT VOTED IT'S ABYSMAL SO WHEN YOU HAVE SCANDALS ON BOTH SIDES AND THEY'RE DISENGAGED THEY'RE CROOKS AND WHY SHOULD I VOTE AND HURT IT OVERALL.

I AGREE AND IT WILL HURT TURNOUT AND THE TREASURER'S RACE WILL BE IMPACTED BY THE SCANDAL THAN ANY OTHER BECAUSE THAT WILL LIVE ON IN THE NEWSPAPERS. DOESN'T SEEM LIKE IT'S GOING TO END SOON SO IF YOU HAVE ONE OR TWO HEADLINES BETWEEN AUGUST AND NOVEMBER OF JUST YOU KNOW THE FORMER TREASURER THEN THAT COULD HAVE AN IMPACT. I DON'T THINK IT WILL IMPACT IN A HUGE WAY, BUT I THINK IT COULD HAVE AN IMPACT. AS IT RELATES TO THE LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR'S SCANDAL I THINK THAT PASSED AND IT'S OVER AND NOT IMPACT THE GENTLEMEN RUNNING FOR LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR. I THINK THEY CAN STAND ON THEIR OWN AND THE SCANDAL IS PRETTY MUCH OUT OF THE NEWS.

WELL, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING ELSE TO ADD?

IN TERMS OF THE LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR'S RACE IT'S HELPFUL THAT TIM GRIFFIN IS BASICALLY A KNOWN QUANTITY NOW PARTICULARLY IN CENTRAL ARKANSAS SO NO ONE CAN SAY WHAT THE FORMER LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR DID IN ANY FORM CAN IMPACT THE RACE HE WILL RUN.

BELIEVE IT OR NOT THIS IS AN AWESOME DISCUSSION BUT WE'RE DOWN TO THREE MINUTES AND I WILL LET YOU MAKE YOUR PREDICTIONS ABOUT THE HOUSE ELECTIONS AND WILL IT FLIP? WE WILL START WITH YOU LAMAR.

I DON'T THINK IT HAS A CHANCE OF FLIPPING AND BE IN REPUBLICAN HANDS AND IN THE RACE OF TERRY RICE AND BRUCE HOLIN AND JOHN BURRIS AND HIS OPPONENT -- THERE AGAIN SPEAKS TO WHAT IS GOING ON IN THE REPUBLICAN PARTY. YOU HAVE AN ARCHITECT OF PRIVATE OPTION SUPPORTER AND THEY'RE IN DANGER OF BEING OUSTED BY THEIR PARTY BECAUSE THEY WANTED TO WORK ACROSS PARTY LINES AND GET SOMETHING DONE AND THEY CONTROL THAT. I THINK THE HOUSE WILL COME BACK TO DEMOCRATIC HANDS AND IT WILL BE CLOSE BUT I THINK WE WILL SEE THAT IN THE FALL.

I HAVE TO AGREE WITH THE SENATE RACE. IT'S GOING TO REMAIN IN THE REPUBLICAN HANDS. I DON'T THINK THERE'S A REAL DANGER. I AGREE THERE IS SOME POSSIBLE IN FIGHTING IF YOU WILL IN THE REPUBLICAN PARTY BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S NECESSARILY A BAD THING, RIGHT. THE PARTY SHOULD EMBRACE NEW IDEAS, EMBRACE OTHER CANDIDATES WHO HAVE IDEAS THAT THEY THINK ARE IN THE BEST INTEREST OF ARKANSANS AND WITH THE HOUSE I WILL DIFFER A LITTLE BIT OF COURSE. I THINK THE HOUSE -- WHILE IT MAY NOT NECESSARILY BE SAFE, IF YOU WILL, I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE TOUGH FOR DEMOCRATS TO TAKE IT BACK OVER JUST BECAUSE I STILL THINK WE HAVE A WAVE OF REPUBLICANS COMING THROUGH AND GOOD CANDIDATES SO I DON'T THINK THERE IS TOO MUCH OF A JEOPARDY AND NOT A HUGE MARGIN BUT IT WILL BE SAFE IN REPUBLICAN HANDS.

I WOULD AGREE WITH BOTH. [LAUGHTER]. I THINK THE SENATE STAYS REPUBLICAN. WE WILL HAVE TO WAY AND SEE IN TERMS OF THE HOUSE. I WOULD ARGUE EVEN IF DEMOCRATS TAKE OVER THE HOUSE THE SPEAKER WILL BE A REPUBLICAN SO A NET WIN FOR REPUBLICANS.

WELL I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THIS HAS BEEN A GREAT INFORMATIVE AND SPIRITED DISCUSSION THAT I BELIEVE OUR AUDIENCE ENJOYED, AND POLITICS -- THEY IMPACT EVERYONE AND MY MESSAGE TO THE AUDIENCE IS DON'T BE APATHETIC. YOU CAN EITHER IMPACT POLITICS AND ELECT THE PEOPLE YOU CHOOSE THAT HAVE THE POLICIES YOU BELIEVE IN OR IT WILL IMPACT YOU. WITH THAT I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR WATCHING US AND WE WILL SEE YOU NEXT TIME.

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